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25.7 Does God knows everything thats going to happen? If so, he must know who is going to be saved and who is going to be damned. If God runs everyones life, then unless God takes a hand to change the destiny of the damned, they suffer eternal torment. But if God intercedes to save them, he falsifies his own foreknowledge. Predestination is, therefore, logically self-contradictory. Besides, a deity that wont save us from eternal torment, if he could, isnt worthy of worship, much less love.
The alternative is to believe that mankind has a free will. Without free will, there is no moral responsibility, no justification for punishment, no reason for a future judgment day, and no need for a clergy. But the existence of free will implies that either God either doesnt know the future (not omniscient), doesnt run your daily life (not omnipotent), or is just plain cruel. The Christian argument between free will and determinism is an old one. If you dont believe me, invite a Catholic and a Calvinist to your next Bible-study session.
25.8 Unfortunately, the logical argument for free will and against predestination is undermined by the Bible itself. Predestination is critical to the concepts of salvation, damnation, faith, atonement, evil, the crucifixion, etc.
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it hath pleased the Lord to make you his people." 1Sam 12:22
"Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;" Job 14:5
"For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him." Job 23:14
"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." Jer 1:5
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God in whose hand thy breath is
" Dan 5:23
"And the king shall do according to his will
for that that is determined shall be done." Dan 11:36
"A mans heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps." Prov 16:9
"The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the Lord." Prov 16:33
"There are many devices in a mans heart; nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand." Prov 19:21
"Mans goings are of the Lord; how can a man then understand his own way?" Prov 20:24
"The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way." Ps 37:23
"For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell." Ps 86:13
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and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them." Ps 139:16
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to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father." Mt 20:23
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Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:" Mt 25:34
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your names are written in heaven." Lk 10:20
"And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined
" Lk 22:22
"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him
" Jn 6:44
"Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God
" Acts 2:23
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And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." Acts 2:47
"For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done." Acts 4:28
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." Acts 13:48
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[God] hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;" Acts 17:26
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." Rom 8:29
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth." Rom 9:18
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which God ordained before the world unto our glory:" 1Cor 2:7
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will," Eph 1:4,5
"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:" Eph 1:11
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Eph 2:10
"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ," 1Thes 5:9
"But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk
" 1Cor 7:17
"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began," 2Tim 1:9
"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," 1Pet 1:20
"And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed." 1Pet 2:8
"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation
" Jude 1:4
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Rev 13:8
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and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world
" Rev 17:8
"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Rev 20:15
25.9 The concept of Gods elect-chosen by God for salvation-also implies determinism and lack of free will, at least for some.
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mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth
" Isa 42:1
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and Israel mine elect
" Isa 45:4
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and mine elect shall inherit it
" Isa 65:9
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mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands." Isa 65:22
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened.
they shall deceive the very elect." Mt 24:22, 24
"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds
" Mt 24:31
"And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elects sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
even the elect." Mk 13:20, 22
"And shall not God avenge his own elect
" Lk 18:7
"Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect
" Rom 8:33
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Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded" Rom 11:7
"Put on therefore, as the elect of God
" Col 3:12
"Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God." 1Thes 1:4
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I endure all things for the elects sakes
" 2Tim 2:10
25.10 The concept of the called (those selected above others) also implies determinism, not free will.
"For the promise is unto you
even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:39
"Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:" Rom 1:6
"But unto them which are called
For ye see your calling, brethren
not many noble, are called:" 1Cor 1:24, 26
"Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called." 1Cor 7:20, 24
"But when it pleased God
and called me by his grace," Gal 1:15
"That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory." 1Thes 2:12
"Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began," 2Tim 1:9
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they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance." Heb 9:15
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knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing." 1Pet 3:9
"But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory
" 1Pet 5:10
"Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure
" 2Pet 1:10
25.11 And, again, the concept of "the chosen" (those special ones chosen by God) implies determinism, not free will.
"The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you
" Deut 7:7
"Only the Lord had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them
" Deut 10:15
"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance." Ps 33:12
"Blessed is the man whom thou choosest
" Ps 65:4
"For the Lord hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure." Ps 135:4
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for many be called, but few chosen." Mt 20:16: 22:14
"Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you
" Jn 15:16
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because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world
" Jn 15:19
"Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God
" Acts 10:41
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The God of our fathers hath chosen thee
" Acts 22:14
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God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation
" 2Thes 2:13
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according to the faith of Gods elect
" Tit 1:1
"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God
" 1Pet 1:1,2
25.12 Once again, the concept of "the given" (those special ones singled out by God to be given to Jesus Christ for salvation) implies determinism, not free will.
"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." Jn 6:37
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I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father." Jn 6:65
"As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." Jn 17:2
"I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me
" Jn 17:6
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I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me
" Jn 17:9
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keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are." Jn 17:11
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those that thou gavest me I have kept" Jn 17:12
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I will that they also, whom thou hast given me
" Jn 17:24
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